Most times, I do not follow auctions closely (unless you read about some famous watches coming up) and typically my reading is mostly before the auction, but I miss tracking results. Maybe as a suggestion for an upcoming edition (or you had it on the radar anyhow): would be nice to hear back how your personal picks from the auction you mentioned in this episode actually performed and what were positive / negative surprises across the board?
If the power reserve on the Lange 1 is non-linear, and five total marks give four spans of time to measure, why would the first two equal 24 hours and the last two equal 24 hours each? Wouldn't it make more sense for each span to be 18 hours? It seems as though Jason Fried measured the time it took for the indicator to reach each mark, so there is no reason to doubt his observation. However, with the German knack for precision, it seems odd that Lange would place the marks at different intervals.
The power reserve indicator on the right is designed with five small triangles, each measuring just 0.40 mm in height and width. Interestingly, the spacing between the triangles is not uniform. This is not an oversight but rather a thoughtful design feature of the Lange 1, which makes most many first time Lange 1 owners a bit nervous at first!
When fully wound, it takes roughly 1.5 days for the indicator to move from the top triangle to the bottom two, and another 1.5 to 2 days for the watch to completely unwind. This clever design gives the owner a visual cue to wind the watch before it stops. If the spacing were uniform, the owner might not feel the need to wind it until the power reserve was fully depleted.
This quirky yet functional detail exemplifies the exceptional overall differentiating approach that goes into every aspect of the Lange 1. Just a marvelous piece overall.
One and a half days is 36 hours. Reaching the second triangle after being fully wound implies that the first triangle would be reached in half that time (18 hours), or at least that the average time to reach each triangle is 18 hours. The same holds for the bottom triangles, though the extra half day (12 hours) in the 1.5 to 2 day estimate isn't accounted for other than, I'm guessing, Lange is likely giving 72 hours as the conservative estimate and/or while the watch might run longer than 72 hours, they prefer for the watch to be rewound after running for 72 hours so that the accuracy of the watch isn't affected so much as the spring winds down fully (in other words, 72 hours of usable power reserve with the watch performing within tolerance). I wholeheartedly agree that the Lange 1 is a marvelous piece. Unlike the Holy Trinity, where there might be several pieces that I would like to own (or none in the case of one of them, which shall remain unnamed but is more or less a one-trick pony), I can honestly say that I would dearly love to own every watch Lange produces.
I have a checkered past. I’ve been banned from the Hodinkee comment section since 2019 for arguing with Jack Forster over the meaning of the term “gray eminence.” I should have known that Hodinkee was sensitive to the color that is used on all their collabs. And I’ve been wandering the horological universe as a “lost spring bar” ever since. Don’t drink the haterade, watch people
I just wanted to add something to this. While I agree with you, I find this actually rather sad. I hope we can continue to engage in online conversations that are both thought-provoking and respectful. For me, I actually enjoy discussions based on different opinions, often more than just talking to agreeable people. It's the same with content: My most favourite watch podcast, for instance, is one where I about 60% of the time entirely disagree with the opinions of the two hosts, but find it fascinating when people talk passionately and intellectually about things they genuinely believe in. That makes me want to have a conversation with them.
I totally agree. But when it gets personal (as it did), it tends to suppress commenters who actually want to have a good-faith, respectful, and reasonable debate on their opinions about watches.
I believe what you're saying about your favorite watch podcast is true in watches and everything else. I'm 100% fine with disagreement, and you'll see other comments in that berneron review (or other posts) that disagree with me. totally fine, all in good fun. when it gets personal, in anything, I think it crosses a line.
No, I agree and totally understand why you banned that one person we tried to discuss with respectfully. Let's hope that most here are not like that, and from what I can tell so far, they are not, which is great.
Agreed, but it seems that there are people who cannot separate the person from the idea and feel in order to refute the argument, they must diminish the person making it. Rather than promoting debate, this behavior suppresses it. Let’s debate ideas, not individuals.
Most times, I do not follow auctions closely (unless you read about some famous watches coming up) and typically my reading is mostly before the auction, but I miss tracking results. Maybe as a suggestion for an upcoming edition (or you had it on the radar anyhow): would be nice to hear back how your personal picks from the auction you mentioned in this episode actually performed and what were positive / negative surprises across the board?
Should have an interesting auction issue for the big Geneva sales :)
Very meta! You ask Erik for a blurb, he quotes himself on his podcast, then you play the audio of him quoting himself on your podcast! :)
a perpetual motion machine of self-congrats
Because you never forget your first time…that you bought a watch
If the power reserve on the Lange 1 is non-linear, and five total marks give four spans of time to measure, why would the first two equal 24 hours and the last two equal 24 hours each? Wouldn't it make more sense for each span to be 18 hours? It seems as though Jason Fried measured the time it took for the indicator to reach each mark, so there is no reason to doubt his observation. However, with the German knack for precision, it seems odd that Lange would place the marks at different intervals.
from Langepedia, hope this helps:
The power reserve indicator on the right is designed with five small triangles, each measuring just 0.40 mm in height and width. Interestingly, the spacing between the triangles is not uniform. This is not an oversight but rather a thoughtful design feature of the Lange 1, which makes most many first time Lange 1 owners a bit nervous at first!
When fully wound, it takes roughly 1.5 days for the indicator to move from the top triangle to the bottom two, and another 1.5 to 2 days for the watch to completely unwind. This clever design gives the owner a visual cue to wind the watch before it stops. If the spacing were uniform, the owner might not feel the need to wind it until the power reserve was fully depleted.
This quirky yet functional detail exemplifies the exceptional overall differentiating approach that goes into every aspect of the Lange 1. Just a marvelous piece overall.
One and a half days is 36 hours. Reaching the second triangle after being fully wound implies that the first triangle would be reached in half that time (18 hours), or at least that the average time to reach each triangle is 18 hours. The same holds for the bottom triangles, though the extra half day (12 hours) in the 1.5 to 2 day estimate isn't accounted for other than, I'm guessing, Lange is likely giving 72 hours as the conservative estimate and/or while the watch might run longer than 72 hours, they prefer for the watch to be rewound after running for 72 hours so that the accuracy of the watch isn't affected so much as the spring winds down fully (in other words, 72 hours of usable power reserve with the watch performing within tolerance). I wholeheartedly agree that the Lange 1 is a marvelous piece. Unlike the Holy Trinity, where there might be several pieces that I would like to own (or none in the case of one of them, which shall remain unnamed but is more or less a one-trick pony), I can honestly say that I would dearly love to own every watch Lange produces.
What is reference of that Breguet on the chain mail?
Ref 3280 in white gold!
I have a checkered past. I’ve been banned from the Hodinkee comment section since 2019 for arguing with Jack Forster over the meaning of the term “gray eminence.” I should have known that Hodinkee was sensitive to the color that is used on all their collabs. And I’ve been wandering the horological universe as a “lost spring bar” ever since. Don’t drink the haterade, watch people
lol – i wonder if there's data on this, but i have to imagine comments between people are magnitudes nicer if said commenters have met in person.
I just wanted to add something to this. While I agree with you, I find this actually rather sad. I hope we can continue to engage in online conversations that are both thought-provoking and respectful. For me, I actually enjoy discussions based on different opinions, often more than just talking to agreeable people. It's the same with content: My most favourite watch podcast, for instance, is one where I about 60% of the time entirely disagree with the opinions of the two hosts, but find it fascinating when people talk passionately and intellectually about things they genuinely believe in. That makes me want to have a conversation with them.
I totally agree. But when it gets personal (as it did), it tends to suppress commenters who actually want to have a good-faith, respectful, and reasonable debate on their opinions about watches.
I believe what you're saying about your favorite watch podcast is true in watches and everything else. I'm 100% fine with disagreement, and you'll see other comments in that berneron review (or other posts) that disagree with me. totally fine, all in good fun. when it gets personal, in anything, I think it crosses a line.
No, I agree and totally understand why you banned that one person we tried to discuss with respectfully. Let's hope that most here are not like that, and from what I can tell so far, they are not, which is great.
Agreed, but it seems that there are people who cannot separate the person from the idea and feel in order to refute the argument, they must diminish the person making it. Rather than promoting debate, this behavior suppresses it. Let’s debate ideas, not individuals.
It sounds like the basis for a funny skit