when i first heard the criticism of the use of arcap for the rotors, i thought it was as idiotic as the claim that rolex moved to an open caseback on the platinum daytona to achieve “cost savings”. these are incredibly expensive watches that don’t need more margin at retail, their buyers will not be dissuaded if the price went up 2% on account of a bit more gold. these are deliberate design choices, whether you like it or not.
and i am going to be very bold and disagree with langepedia, the most beautiful series production automatic that lange have made is the l021 used in the l1 daymatic and qp. and it’s not even close.
The sax o mat’s reset to zero thing was cool. The old one wore a little large on me with those long ass lugs. This is tempting but like twice the price of the old ones on the secondary. So anyway I’ll keep buying lotto tickets and see how it goes!
I am a big Lange fan, but interestingly enough, when I tried these on in a boutique, I was left a little underwhelmed. Can’t quite point my finger as to why.. maybe at 36, I missed the familiar Lange heft which is comforting no matter what the size is?
I am sure I am showing my ignorance, but in the list of annual calendars of Patek, you omit the 5205. I know it is much larger, but am trying to understand the basis of your statement that Patek does not take their annual calendars seriously. I don’t own any, but have seen a lot of debates about 5396 vs 5205. Thx for any info. I did enjoy the article and personally am a Lange fan. The new annual calendar at a smaller size makes a lot of sense. So many manufacturers are making watches in sizes that vary from big to bigger. The only knock on Lange’s annual calendars that I have read is that they are comparatively pricey to service relative to say a Lange One.
you're right, i assume patek would consider the 5205 its flagship annual calendar. i was limiting the competitive scope to similarly styled and priced ACs and the 5205 is just bigger and sportier than the 5396 or Saxonia AC. so my statement was more about its smaller, classically-styled annual calendars not feeling super serious.
Is day dial pointing to Friday or Saturday? Drives me to no end that at $63k, one has to guess…how about jumping day complication? How accurate is it? Like do I need an Apple Watch with it to tell time? Ease of setting time, calendar? Say as compared to SkyDweller, probably the easiest annual calendar to operate.., real life durability? Outside of your preference for smaller watches, not sure I get much out of it… sorry for directness here
not all watches are for everyone, i agree the sky-dweller and the ring setting is the most innovative annual calendar around, but not wearable for many, myself included
I would like to throw in the competition also the Patek 5396. Of course it's larger than the Lange, but still wears quite well on small wrists. The blue dial / baguette diamonds 5396 retails at about the same price as the new Lange (at least in the UK), and good second hand examples of that version already trade at a 15% discount vs the Lange. I think Lange's price on this one (I'm told about £57k in the UK) is too aggressive, and for once Patek may be offering better value - but I am curious to hear your view. Thanks for the good review.
when i first heard the criticism of the use of arcap for the rotors, i thought it was as idiotic as the claim that rolex moved to an open caseback on the platinum daytona to achieve “cost savings”. these are incredibly expensive watches that don’t need more margin at retail, their buyers will not be dissuaded if the price went up 2% on account of a bit more gold. these are deliberate design choices, whether you like it or not.
and i am going to be very bold and disagree with langepedia, the most beautiful series production automatic that lange have made is the l021 used in the l1 daymatic and qp. and it’s not even close.
This is great 30k watch
The sax o mat’s reset to zero thing was cool. The old one wore a little large on me with those long ass lugs. This is tempting but like twice the price of the old ones on the secondary. So anyway I’ll keep buying lotto tickets and see how it goes!
lol i'll be interested to see how the secondary receives these in a few years, could be super compelling depending on where lange is at as a brand
I am a big Lange fan, but interestingly enough, when I tried these on in a boutique, I was left a little underwhelmed. Can’t quite point my finger as to why.. maybe at 36, I missed the familiar Lange heft which is comforting no matter what the size is?
interesting! for me, the size felt just about perfect. but most of the more familiar langes, like the L1, are a bit too hefty for me
I am sure I am showing my ignorance, but in the list of annual calendars of Patek, you omit the 5205. I know it is much larger, but am trying to understand the basis of your statement that Patek does not take their annual calendars seriously. I don’t own any, but have seen a lot of debates about 5396 vs 5205. Thx for any info. I did enjoy the article and personally am a Lange fan. The new annual calendar at a smaller size makes a lot of sense. So many manufacturers are making watches in sizes that vary from big to bigger. The only knock on Lange’s annual calendars that I have read is that they are comparatively pricey to service relative to say a Lange One.
you're right, i assume patek would consider the 5205 its flagship annual calendar. i was limiting the competitive scope to similarly styled and priced ACs and the 5205 is just bigger and sportier than the 5396 or Saxonia AC. so my statement was more about its smaller, classically-styled annual calendars not feeling super serious.
This model in both versions is so beautiful.
one of my favorite releases of the year so far!
Is day dial pointing to Friday or Saturday? Drives me to no end that at $63k, one has to guess…how about jumping day complication? How accurate is it? Like do I need an Apple Watch with it to tell time? Ease of setting time, calendar? Say as compared to SkyDweller, probably the easiest annual calendar to operate.., real life durability? Outside of your preference for smaller watches, not sure I get much out of it… sorry for directness here
not all watches are for everyone, i agree the sky-dweller and the ring setting is the most innovative annual calendar around, but not wearable for many, myself included
I would like to throw in the competition also the Patek 5396. Of course it's larger than the Lange, but still wears quite well on small wrists. The blue dial / baguette diamonds 5396 retails at about the same price as the new Lange (at least in the UK), and good second hand examples of that version already trade at a 15% discount vs the Lange. I think Lange's price on this one (I'm told about £57k in the UK) is too aggressive, and for once Patek may be offering better value - but I am curious to hear your view. Thanks for the good review.